RodiAgnusDei
RodiAgnusDei
  • Видео 573
  • Просмотров 10 258 001

Видео

Lazar Gog - PERSPECTIVA PROFETICA 2018 - ,,DUMNEZEU si VECINII lui ISRAEL''
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.6 лет назад
PERSPECTIVA PROFETICA 2018 - ,,DUMNEZEU si VECINII lui ISRAEL''
Nelu Brie Biserica Agape OC California 2
Просмотров 8497 лет назад
Nelu Brie Biserica Agape OC California 2
Scuturati-va din nepasare - Petru Popovici
Просмотров 8 тыс.7 лет назад
Mesaj Petru Popovici
Perspectiva Profetica 2017 Lazar Gog
Просмотров 37 тыс.7 лет назад
1 ianuarie 2017
Noah's Ark Second Part (Partea Doua)
Просмотров 3437 лет назад
I created this video with the RUclips Video Editor (ruclips.net/user/editor)
Noah"s Ark First Part (Prima Parte)
Просмотров 2957 лет назад
I created this video with the RUclips Video Editor (ruclips.net/user/editor)
Noah's Ark Replica, Kentucky - virtual tour 2016
Просмотров 111 тыс.7 лет назад
This video contains a virtual tour of the inside (and the outside) of the Ark Encounter, a Noah's Ark replica, which opened this summer (2016), in Williamstown, Kentucky.
CORNEL AVRAM Pericolul prieteniei cu lumea
Просмотров 4,6 тыс.7 лет назад
CORNEL AVRAM Pericolul prieteniei cu lumea
Naomi & Eliana bible verses
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.7 лет назад
La Biserica Penticostala Speranta din Oradea
Noah's Ark - Ark Encounter 4
Просмотров 2417 лет назад
Questions and answers from inside the Ark Encounter in Williamstown Kentucky
Noah's Ark - Ark Encounter 5
Просмотров 1917 лет назад
Questions and answers from inside de Ark Encounter
Noah's Ark - Ark Encounter 3
Просмотров 1967 лет назад
Questions and answers about the flood, from inside the Ark Encounter
Noah's Ark - Ark Encounter 2
Просмотров 2607 лет назад
The dove is sent outside the Ark for signs for dry land, after the flood.
Noah's Ark - Ark Encounter
Просмотров 3977 лет назад
During the flood Noah's family were busy feeding the animals and preparing meals for themselves
Grading 15
Просмотров 1967 лет назад
Grading 15
Grading 10
Просмотров 1457 лет назад
Grading 10
Grading 4
Просмотров 2037 лет назад
Grading 4
Grading 3
Просмотров 1897 лет назад
Grading 3
Grading 2
Просмотров 2367 лет назад
Grading 2
botanical gardens - beautiful sunset
Просмотров 2198 лет назад
botanical gardens - beautiful sunset
Release of Baloons in Beautiful Chicago Daley Plaza
Просмотров 1128 лет назад
Release of Baloons in Beautiful Chicago Daley Plaza
The Release of Doves - Symbol of Faith at the pro Bodnariu Meeting in Chicago
Просмотров 1528 лет назад
The Release of Doves - Symbol of Faith at the pro Bodnariu Meeting in Chicago
Manny Purcar & Oana Bodnariu Purcar at the Chicago Pro Bodnariu Meeting
Просмотров 3668 лет назад
Manny Purcar & Oana Bodnariu Purcar at the Chicago Pro Bodnariu Meeting
Miting ProBodnariu Chicago, Suntem o familie unita - Valentin Popovici rugaciune
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.8 лет назад
Miting ProBodnariu Chicago, Suntem o familie unita - Valentin Popovici rugaciune
LUIGI MITOI - Miting Pentru Sustinerea fam. BODNARIU Chicago 16 Aprilie
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.8 лет назад
LUIGI MITOI - Miting Pentru Sustinerea fam. BODNARIU Chicago 16 Aprilie
Cristian Ionescu - Miting in support of Bodnariu family, in Chicago, April 16 2016
Просмотров 9748 лет назад
Cristian Ionescu - Miting in support of Bodnariu family, in Chicago, April 16 2016
Support for Bodnariu family, downtown Chicago
Просмотров 2278 лет назад
Support for Bodnariu family, downtown Chicago
Lazar Gog Perspectiva Profetica 8 Februarie 2015
Просмотров 7 тыс.9 лет назад
Lazar Gog Perspectiva Profetica 8 Februarie 2015
Murind ca sa traim
Просмотров 1 тыс.9 лет назад
Murind ca sa traim

Комментарии

  • @Quint-ib4nf
    @Quint-ib4nf Месяц назад

    Ray is just the worst. Christians dont even like him.

  • @MrShadowy1
    @MrShadowy1 Месяц назад

    8:40

  • @DeciovToni-qt9ic
    @DeciovToni-qt9ic Месяц назад

    When you ask who created God this question is a delusion , cause a created God is by definition a delusion

    • @vladtheemailer3223
      @vladtheemailer3223 Месяц назад

      Same for god in general.

    • @DeciovToni-qt9ic
      @DeciovToni-qt9ic Месяц назад

      @@vladtheemailer3223 The Creator cannot create itself . But He Himself can create 😉 (creation )

    • @vladtheemailer3223
      @vladtheemailer3223 Месяц назад

      @@DeciovToni-qt9ic Can any of that be demonstrated? There needs to be more than special pleading.

  • @danielbenard4646
    @danielbenard4646 Месяц назад

    Not sure if I’m gonna get all the way through it, but opening remarks are laughable for the pro religion side.

  • @howardpalys6929
    @howardpalys6929 2 месяца назад

    Ray and Kirk got their asses handed to them in this debate.

  • @esthersotnas4595
    @esthersotnas4595 2 месяца назад

    Believing in God isa win win what they win by denying that GOD exist , they never ask wht if ?too late , GOD is a just GOD

  • @esthersotnas4595
    @esthersotnas4595 2 месяца назад

    This is not a debate betwwen ray and kirk and the guy and the lady , but the moderator is the true atheist

  • @DM-mj8nr
    @DM-mj8nr 2 месяца назад

    kirk was just happy to be on network tv again

  • @user-og2wt3le4j
    @user-og2wt3le4j 2 месяца назад

    Read Lee Strobel's book The Case for God.

  • @davebrookbank4831
    @davebrookbank4831 2 месяца назад

    YES

  • @lesasadler6774
    @lesasadler6774 2 месяца назад

    This guy is stupid beyond belief......who supports this...what does he say is his research alcolades

  • @user-co3cj4bd3s
    @user-co3cj4bd3s 3 месяца назад

    Și eu am avut nevoie de aceea ce aud acum. Fiți binecuvântat !

  • @doomman700
    @doomman700 4 месяца назад

    Horses don’t have non horses. They give birth to mules. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @satch500
    @satch500 4 месяца назад

    Little do Ray and Kirk realise that they helped create many atheists that night. Their level of stupidity is indicative of the fact there are no credible reasons to believe in a god. If there is a god, he would be embarrassed by these clowns posing as followers.

  • @shanebell2514
    @shanebell2514 5 месяцев назад

    The atheist couple came across as very aloof, cold, with snide remarks.

  • @shanebell2514
    @shanebell2514 5 месяцев назад

    Even without the Bible we can look around and say how did this happen, everything simply cannot come from nothing.

    • @vladtheemailer3223
      @vladtheemailer3223 Месяц назад

      Nobody claims that.

    • @shanebell2514
      @shanebell2514 Месяц назад

      @@vladtheemailer3223 what did?

    • @vladtheemailer3223
      @vladtheemailer3223 Месяц назад

      @@shanebell2514 Who claims something came from nothing? Can you demonstrate that there ever was nothing?

    • @shanebell2514
      @shanebell2514 Месяц назад

      @@vladtheemailer3223 what else is there if the universe is not in existence? What caused the universe to come about?

  • @christopherpollard8420
    @christopherpollard8420 5 месяцев назад

    I’d like you to meet my pet crocoduck

  • @zamasuvega1399
    @zamasuvega1399 5 месяцев назад

    THE ONLY WAY TO ETERNITY AFTER DEATH IS THROUGH LORD JESUS CHRIST. THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE ARE HEADED STRAIGHT TO LUCIFER’S DARK KINGDOM, AND I FEEL SAD FOR THE CONDEMNED!!!!!!!

  • @hansvandermeulen5515
    @hansvandermeulen5515 6 месяцев назад

    "Hi, I'm crook Cameron." Yes, indeed you are.

  • @kathrynpetrick2588
    @kathrynpetrick2588 6 месяцев назад

    hey atheist's readers, my testimony: I was working at IKEA in 2017 and I got into an argument with three of my coworkers that were making God's dead jokes so I stood up against them clocked out went and got a dollar from my locker went back downstairs and bought a Ice cream cone; and debated with all three of them that God is not dead. They had good questions one that stumped me was well how do we know Jesus is the savior. I didn't know how i could answer that, so I left confused. Then went to see if I could teach English aboard. After three months in Russia, I moved back to colorado spring to be around my grandma. A few months go by and I meet my daughter's father. we were together for about 7 months. 6 of those months were becoming a worse and worse night mare. It lead me to think about my childhood on Sundays: at Sunday school. how much i missed that joy. so I started reading a bible that i got from a church I have known. I started to read it a few weeks before we got into our last fight. at some point I prayed to God to show me a sign that Jesus was our savior. then he had to leave. about three weeks go by after he had left. I was cleaning the rooms as a hotel housekeeper. but the thoughts of what he said to were running through my head were running frequently. I just want them to go away. (Now I knew I didn't want to lead my daughter astray or confused about Jesus just because I was. So I said this her...not believing it till it actually happened, kind of thing) I was making the bed and like said I wanted the thoughts to leave my head. So i told my daughter in my womb that (Jesus loves you, Malina) in Russian. and holy spirit came over me and she did a somersault in my womb at that direct second I said that. confirming to that Jesus is our savior. I went back IKEA to share my testimony with one of the atheists after over a year. unsure if they converted, but I was happy to say ahh... I was right they were wrong.

  • @irenecaissie
    @irenecaissie 6 месяцев назад

    Great job Ray and kirk notice how that lady on stage was getting angry and at one point the man said to the girl to answer the question because she's the expert lol

  • @valerieprice1745
    @valerieprice1745 6 месяцев назад

    Brilliant and beautiful! Praise Jesus Christ. May God bless and keep Tom Wright, and all brothers and sisters in Christ.

  • @vjohn1464
    @vjohn1464 6 месяцев назад

    Kelly baby the U.S. is 3rd in population size so naturally there would be more crime especially with liberal and ungodly leaders... The Bible never did call any nation as a Christian nation...that's a lie from the pit of hell to put soft pillow under our heads. Christ saves and sanctifies people individually. I cannot believe or be holy on behalf of even my wife...i can only set an example.

  • @vjohn1464
    @vjohn1464 6 месяцев назад

    All things material or physical have a beginning or a creator...by definition God is spirit and immaterial...He made all things so the atheist in wilfulll ignorance and arrogance will push back asking well who created God? "Why can't the universe be eternal?" Ok, admit you believe in that...can't prove, and worship the universe and see where you end up. Many throughout history have done so, it's called idolatry and God said "eyes they have, but cannot see, ears they have but cannot hear...." This notion that you cannot reduce matter and energy in the universe...ok, but you just brought an example of destruction of a created or built thing...that's devolving...Kirk and Rey are talking about creation with design and these 🤡🤡 bring up a fallacious analogy and don't have the courage to admit their nonsense. Darwin anticipated millions of examples of transitional fossils but these 🤡🤡 are going to stutter through their defence of their religious beliefs of a theory that could never be observed...it's just bunch of claims and well orchastrated and manipulated coincidences and methods...oh yes also billions of years just so they're safe in their predictions...not realizing it's all faith based😂 There will be no atheists in the by and by!

  • @jesperbreitenstein4820
    @jesperbreitenstein4820 6 месяцев назад

    Dumb & Dumber

  • @Mr.Furley412
    @Mr.Furley412 6 месяцев назад

    Kelly looks like she's a real demon in the sack!😛

  • @rickfilmmaker3934
    @rickfilmmaker3934 6 месяцев назад

    Dear N.T.Wright, James was the son of Joseph's brother. Family members called each other brother, etc, not cousins.

  • @craigkelly4278
    @craigkelly4278 7 месяцев назад

    Man that woman is rather attractive looking

  • @scottcarnegie4671
    @scottcarnegie4671 7 месяцев назад

    56:07 classic moment, the crocoduck!

  • @Pass179
    @Pass179 7 месяцев назад

    "It is a wicked and perverse generation that seeks after a sign and no sign shall be given" Jesus said that to some people who wanted him to perform a miracle, to prove he was who he said he was. A few years later in my life, God showed me something. There are going to be people who will decieve multitudes through miraculous signs and wonders in the not too far future. That is why we must come to him by FAITH. Not by signs. And God WILL reveal himself to anyone if they seek him for REAL. But unbelievers want God to do it in the opposite way. And you must come to him by FAITH. Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.". God bless

  • @Teachmemore
    @Teachmemore 7 месяцев назад

    Kelly is annoying

  • @Trollsagan69420
    @Trollsagan69420 7 месяцев назад

    46:30 “If god can be infinite, why can’t the universe be infinite?” Kirk’s response: “well, we believe…” Huge L to theism.

  • @Trollsagan69420
    @Trollsagan69420 7 месяцев назад

    “A painting requires a painter!” Rays says, but somehow doesn’t see the gaping hole in his argument by neglecting to ask one simple question. Is god himself a painting? If ray could look inside the mind of god, and see all of the complexity within, would he likewise conclude that god must have had a creator? No you say? God came from nothing? Well, then what’s even the problem? Why does god get a pass for coming from nothing, and the Big Bang doesn’t? Even then I don’t think the Big Bang originated from nothing. There’s still obviously more there, for which you could at least say the same for a hypothetical god. But even this much exposes how ignorant Ray’s argument is. Especially when he neglects to acknowledge that humans have a natural explanation for their origin, so a creator is already redundant and unnecessary, on top of just not making any kind of real sense. What does god have as his explanation? We don’t know. But trying to get a super computer pre built into reality sounds very unlikely. Thus we use Occam’s razor to rule out something that doesn’t fit the data, nor has any means of being tested on its own.

  • @jamesbargo7590
    @jamesbargo7590 7 месяцев назад

    there is no such thing as an "evolutionist" there is just 2 kinds of people Thoes who understand what and how it works and then there is Everyone els

  • @williambeckett6336
    @williambeckett6336 8 месяцев назад

    What a load of carefully crafted BS. I swear if a christian says the sky is blue you'd better assk for specific clarifiaction and go out and check. The Jews adopted a dying and rising savior because those that were still alive across the empire when the temple was destroyed in 70 CE (making sin forgivness impossible) were already marinating in the Greco-Roman cultures in the cities they'd lived in for generations. They fused their Judaic messiah motifs with their Greek friends and neighbors Mystery cult/dying and rising personal savior motifs. And the fingerprints are there: Before this Greek infusion the Judaic god was anything but "personal." And those Greco-Jews had every right, need and opportunity to formulate new cults because when Jerusalem was destroyed their central authority was annihilated. There was no one to report misbehaving Jews to anymore. That is the reality.

  • @tiffanysmith7419
    @tiffanysmith7419 8 месяцев назад

    Big big big difference in thinking that there is a creator (or source) and specifically the blood sacrifice religion of Christianity. That’s where ‘evidence’ falls apart.

  • @z3my4l
    @z3my4l 8 месяцев назад

    Only a god can create those lovely melons on Kelly ❤

  • @savannahhague4989
    @savannahhague4989 8 месяцев назад

    The scary part of this debate is that the two people Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort had to face against are those who came up with both an evil and moronic challenge to blaspheme God and the Holy Spirit. I feel sorry for anyone who chose to take that challenge because whether they believe or not, they’re gambling with their souls. I hope more people like Kirk Cameron and Roy Comfort would speak up to put a stop to things like this. Also, atheists that think Roy is a clown really are closed minded to proper research done by people who happen to be Christians.

  • @tyrel5064
    @tyrel5064 9 месяцев назад

    Ray wasn’t worried about convincing the athiest he was debating. He used the platform as a springboard to reach the lost in the audience looking for hope in their death.

    • @NeedSomeNuance
      @NeedSomeNuance 8 месяцев назад

      Well that’s convenient cause he definitely convinced no one 😂

    • @tyrel5064
      @tyrel5064 8 месяцев назад

      @@NeedSomeNuance you believe nothing created everything?

    • @Druid75
      @Druid75 8 месяцев назад

      @@tyrel5064thats actually what Christians say when they meet someone who doesn’t buy into the bullshit of their bronze age myths and superstitions

    • @tyrel5064
      @tyrel5064 8 месяцев назад

      @@Druid75 I’ve been there. I can see you’re angry at either a God you don’t believe in or hurt by some religious hypocrites. Maybe you are afraid of death as life flies by. Im assuming you have no father or not a happy one at that. There is indeed more to this life, and there is hope. Im sure you believe in evil, is evil like murdering a toddler wrong as fact or is it just opinion that us monkey brains decided. Does the evil murder get judged and the innocent toddler spirit move on? Or do they both end up in the same place, nowhere? If it’s nowhere then nothing matters, especially this discussion, we are nothing and there is no hope. If you’re right, who cares about anything it doesn’t matter. But if we are right, then it matters a great deal because we are talking about eternity. You do not have to live angry, or feel empty, or believe all the lies those around you are saying about you. There’s is a truth greater than all of us and you are wanted to be a part. The only incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible. It was made by an intelligent creator named Jesus. And you sir are offered a ticket to the next earth after this one passes away, which it will

    • @Quint-ib4nf
      @Quint-ib4nf 8 месяцев назад

      No Ray is a con man and a sociopath.

  • @S.R.M.
    @S.R.M. 9 месяцев назад

    ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE Question: “What is the name which is above every name?” Answer: Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” And God said to Moses, “HaYAH Ashar HaYAH [“I AM WHO I AM.”] And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” Moreover, God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations” (Exodus 3:13-15). Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The LORD revealed His essential name “YAH,” and this name appears 48 times in the Bible. Question: “Doesn’t the LORD have many names?” Answer: And God spoke to Moses and said to him: “I the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name Lord {YAH} I was not known to them (Exodus 6:2-3). The LORD only has one essential name YAH, and many descriptive names. Question: What does this mean to me? Answer: It means your salvation. The prophet Isaiah makes this very clear: “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV, as compared to the Hebrew). “YAH” means “I AM” with “Shua” meaning salvation, and thus YAHSHUA is the exclusive name of our salvation. Question: What name did Christ actually receive at His birth? Before we answer, it is important that we know one crucial fact, that the name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. So the real question is, “What name did the angel reveal to Joseph?” Obviously the name of salvation according to the Prophet is “YAH,” and “shua” means salvation. Answer: In Matthew 1:21, “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name YAHSHUA, for He will save His people from their sins.” “You shall call” is a command from God through the angel. The name YAHSHUA is revealed and commanded to be given to our Savior. Most do not know of the transformations, or the linguistic evolution, of the only name by which we must be saved: Jesus changed from Iesus due to the late addition of the letter “J” into the English alphabet in the 17th century. Jesus comes from Iesus, and Iesus is found in the 1611 KJV English version of the Bible. Iesus (Latin) comes from the Greek name Iesous, which is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua, Yeshua was a common name in the 1st century, and most people who lived in the land of Israel would have heard YAHSHUA as Yeshua. Question: Why is this one name YAHSHUA so important to our salvation? The Apostle Peter made this very clear and emphatic: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). Question: How do we know that YAH was revealed to us? Answer: The Savior Himself told us when He said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). “I AM” is YAH, as in Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The Apostle Paul, who was called Saul, on the Road to Damascus heard the name which is above every name, He testified of this to King Agrippa, “While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, at midday, O King, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am YAHSHUA, whom you are persecuting’” (Acts 26:12-15). Question: Did the apostle Paul hear: “the name which is above every name?” Answer: The apostle Paul wrote, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him {YAH} the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Every language is to know and confess this one name: YAHSHUA. Question: “What does it mean if we reject the one name given under heaven by which we must be saved?” Answer: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). To reject the Savior’s revealed name is to stand condemned. Halleluyah, Praise YAH, Praise YAHSHUA! And be saved! This יָה is “YAH” {I AM} in Hebrew. (www.nazareanministryofyahshua.com) Question: How serious is it to reject the revealed name of God? “If you will not hear, and if you will not take it to heart, to give glory to My name {YAH},” says the LORD of hosts, “I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart” (Malachi 2:2). Because of the intent to hide the name of God since 600 BC, the name of salvation is obtained in the Word of God, and less so in the world. Behold the only name of Salvation according to the Gospel: YAHSHUA!

  • @roysmallian2889
    @roysmallian2889 9 месяцев назад

    Why do you have to die to see god?

  • @roysmallian2889
    @roysmallian2889 9 месяцев назад

    Ray Comfort's coke can illustration is ridiculous. Of course a coke can cannot come into existence at random. Evolution does not suggest such. Very simplistic reasoning!

  • @thesheffinator7124
    @thesheffinator7124 9 месяцев назад

    Ray Comfort, the prince of nauseating moralising disingenuity, with his trusted sidekick the "Boy I Wonder".

  • @anaraab4825
    @anaraab4825 9 месяцев назад

    HALLO, Beniamin ,wir haben uns mal in Nürnberg gesehen. Vor lange Zeit. Ich habe euch geholfen den Weg zu euren Ziel zu finden. Du bist ein seeeehr angenehme Mensch . Liebe Grüße von mir. Ana

  • @Scrapla1
    @Scrapla1 10 месяцев назад

    The King Krocoduck origin!

  • @5150Rockstar
    @5150Rockstar 10 месяцев назад

    You had me at banana🍌😊

  • @corychallice7705
    @corychallice7705 10 месяцев назад

    Faith is not equivalent to knowledge, faith is the absence of knowledge

  • @sheilabranscum1318
    @sheilabranscum1318 10 месяцев назад

    This been 10/ago.. I pray these two Atheists have already been found the Lord in their lives 😢🙏

  • @bruceleeroy8302
    @bruceleeroy8302 10 месяцев назад

    Religion is clearly a “fairytale for grownups”

  • @everydaydubs1713
    @everydaydubs1713 10 месяцев назад

    2:20 "...the way Jesus did; not sugar coating the message..." So...... who wants to tell Kurk that Jesus is specifically famous for re-telling an apocalyptic damnation as a promise of salvation?